UK Education Minster discusses Good Manners (HURRAH)
Once again the topic of good manners comes to fore.
In the Daily Mail there was an article about teaching manners to unruly toddlers. Good God, what about entitled young adults and children. What about being disciplined? I like the french nursery example, however as here where I live I find it debatable that if the child had misbehaved the parents would do anything about it. I remember tutoring in college and the kid was such a brat- he wouldn't do the extra problems and informed me that it was MY job to do the work for him. EXCUSE ME? Then the mom refused to back me up and complained about me to my program coordinator. It was at that point that I decided I couldn't teach because the other teachers and the parents would drive me nuts and I would have ended up being an alcoholic.
Parents are responsible for their kids. End of story. IT is not the schools job to correct or counsel your kid. IT is up to the parents to get off their fat sorry asses and do the job and make certain their kids are able to do things for themselves.
My cuter half and I are responsible for our boy. WE are harder on him than anyone else. We don't put up with anything - I used to say, "If I haven't given birth to it I don't have to put up with its crap." It still stands and I don't put up with the boy's crap either- 11 hours of labor and pushing a bowling ball (6 lbs) out my butt....I still won't take the boys giving me garbage in the behavior department.
This is not saying the boy has perfect manners. He doesn't. Most of the time he is very difficult to deal with and is very unpleasant. I have heard this is a temporary thing and that he will improve with time- However I have also heard that this is temporary for a long time and we are still waiting to see what happens.
Many people won't like that I have said dealing with my Aspie son is unpleasant. Tough. It is- constant talking back, arguing and having a young adult behave like a 6 year old is pretty damn unpleasant. But then again, there are times that we have been a train wreck. God knows we are up for another vaca the cuter one and I but we have to get through this round of paperwork, school and life before we can move onto the next thing.
I am including the article and link below:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312657/A-generation-unruly-toddlers-Schools-Minister-says-Nursery-children-arent-taught-manners.html
Nurseries are breeding a generation of toddlers with no manners, the education minister has warned.
Elizabeth Truss condemned ‘chaotic’ pre-schools that allow children to do what they want all day long, leaving them unable to sit still and listen by the time they get to primary school.
In an interview with the Daily Mail, she said many nurseries were filled with toddlers ‘running around with no sense of purpose’.
She called for a traditional approach akin to that found in France, where children typically start working with a graduate-level teacher from the age of two and are expected to say ‘hello’ when an adult enters the room.
The minister’s criticism comes as the Government prepares to offer tax breaks to help working parents with the cost of childcare.
From 2015, working couples will qualify for tax breaks worth as much as £1,200 a year per child.
Some Tory MPs have claimed the scheme discriminates against stay-at-home mothers, but ministers say there is evidence that up to a million women want to work but are put off by nursery or childminder costs.
Miss Truss’s intervention suggests the Government believes there is much work to be done to improve the quality of care in nurseries before the tax breaks come into effect.
She said education watchdog Ofsted will be expected to mark down pre-school providers who do not take on better-qualified staff and offer children more structure.
‘This isn’t about two-year-olds doing academic work – it’s structured play which teaches children to be polite and considerate through activities which the teacher is clearly leading,’ she said.
‘At the moment fewer than one-third of nurseries employ graduate-level teachers and have structured, teacher-led sessions. We know that’s very beneficial.
‘What you notice in French nurseries is just how calm they are. All of their classes are structured and led by teachers. It’s a requirement.
'They learn to socialise with each other, pay attention to the teacher and develop good manners, which is not the case in too many nurseries in Britain.’
In the Daily Mail there was an article about teaching manners to unruly toddlers. Good God, what about entitled young adults and children. What about being disciplined? I like the french nursery example, however as here where I live I find it debatable that if the child had misbehaved the parents would do anything about it. I remember tutoring in college and the kid was such a brat- he wouldn't do the extra problems and informed me that it was MY job to do the work for him. EXCUSE ME? Then the mom refused to back me up and complained about me to my program coordinator. It was at that point that I decided I couldn't teach because the other teachers and the parents would drive me nuts and I would have ended up being an alcoholic.
Parents are responsible for their kids. End of story. IT is not the schools job to correct or counsel your kid. IT is up to the parents to get off their fat sorry asses and do the job and make certain their kids are able to do things for themselves.
My cuter half and I are responsible for our boy. WE are harder on him than anyone else. We don't put up with anything - I used to say, "If I haven't given birth to it I don't have to put up with its crap." It still stands and I don't put up with the boy's crap either- 11 hours of labor and pushing a bowling ball (6 lbs) out my butt....I still won't take the boys giving me garbage in the behavior department.
This is not saying the boy has perfect manners. He doesn't. Most of the time he is very difficult to deal with and is very unpleasant. I have heard this is a temporary thing and that he will improve with time- However I have also heard that this is temporary for a long time and we are still waiting to see what happens.
Many people won't like that I have said dealing with my Aspie son is unpleasant. Tough. It is- constant talking back, arguing and having a young adult behave like a 6 year old is pretty damn unpleasant. But then again, there are times that we have been a train wreck. God knows we are up for another vaca the cuter one and I but we have to get through this round of paperwork, school and life before we can move onto the next thing.
I am including the article and link below:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312657/A-generation-unruly-toddlers-Schools-Minister-says-Nursery-children-arent-taught-manners.html
Nurseries are breeding a generation of toddlers with no manners, the education minister has warned.
Elizabeth Truss condemned ‘chaotic’ pre-schools that allow children to do what they want all day long, leaving them unable to sit still and listen by the time they get to primary school.
In an interview with the Daily Mail, she said many nurseries were filled with toddlers ‘running around with no sense of purpose’.
She called for a traditional approach akin to that found in France, where children typically start working with a graduate-level teacher from the age of two and are expected to say ‘hello’ when an adult enters the room.
The minister’s criticism comes as the Government prepares to offer tax breaks to help working parents with the cost of childcare.
From 2015, working couples will qualify for tax breaks worth as much as £1,200 a year per child.
Some Tory MPs have claimed the scheme discriminates against stay-at-home mothers, but ministers say there is evidence that up to a million women want to work but are put off by nursery or childminder costs.
Miss Truss’s intervention suggests the Government believes there is much work to be done to improve the quality of care in nurseries before the tax breaks come into effect.
She said education watchdog Ofsted will be expected to mark down pre-school providers who do not take on better-qualified staff and offer children more structure.
‘This isn’t about two-year-olds doing academic work – it’s structured play which teaches children to be polite and considerate through activities which the teacher is clearly leading,’ she said.
‘At the moment fewer than one-third of nurseries employ graduate-level teachers and have structured, teacher-led sessions. We know that’s very beneficial.
‘What you notice in French nurseries is just how calm they are. All of their classes are structured and led by teachers. It’s a requirement.
'They learn to socialise with each other, pay attention to the teacher and develop good manners, which is not the case in too many nurseries in Britain.’
She said of the UK system: ‘Free-flow play is not compulsory, but there is a belief across lots of nurseries that it is. I have seen too many chaotic settings, where children are running around. There’s no sense of purpose.
‘In these settings where there aren’t sufficiently qualified staff, and children are running around, we are not getting positive outcomes.
‘We want children to learn to listen to a teacher, learn to respect an instruction, so that they are ready for school.’
The married mother of two, who is increasingly tipped for high office, said it was clear that far too many existing nurseries are ‘not good enough’ – and stressed the importance of good preparation for primary school.
‘Children get into the habit of waiting their turn, of saying hello to the teacher when they come into the room,’ she said.
The minister highlighted the Government’s changes to rules on child-to-adult ratios, to encourage nurseries to employ better-paid graduates.
Teachers can already look after up to 13 children aged three and four years, compared with just eight for less well-qualified staff.
Her intervention will delight parents and educators who believe a more traditional approach is necessary in vital pre-school years.
However, it risks angering trade union leaders and those who insist it is best to ‘let children be children’ before they reach primary school.
From September, Ofsted will only consider ratings of ‘good’ or ‘outstanding’ to be acceptable for nurseries and pre-schools; the ‘satisfactory’ rating will be scrapped and replaced with ‘requires improvement’.
Ofsted head Sir Michael Wilshaw recently decried the ‘absolute nonsense’ that more exams are needed to work with animals than young children
‘In these settings where there aren’t sufficiently qualified staff, and children are running around, we are not getting positive outcomes.
Improving care: Miss truss, a mother-of-two, says nurseries need to better prepare children for school
The married mother of two, who is increasingly tipped for high office, said it was clear that far too many existing nurseries are ‘not good enough’ – and stressed the importance of good preparation for primary school.
‘Children get into the habit of waiting their turn, of saying hello to the teacher when they come into the room,’ she said.
The minister highlighted the Government’s changes to rules on child-to-adult ratios, to encourage nurseries to employ better-paid graduates.
Teachers can already look after up to 13 children aged three and four years, compared with just eight for less well-qualified staff.
Her intervention will delight parents and educators who believe a more traditional approach is necessary in vital pre-school years.
However, it risks angering trade union leaders and those who insist it is best to ‘let children be children’ before they reach primary school.
From September, Ofsted will only consider ratings of ‘good’ or ‘outstanding’ to be acceptable for nurseries and pre-schools; the ‘satisfactory’ rating will be scrapped and replaced with ‘requires improvement’.
Ofsted head Sir Michael Wilshaw recently decried the ‘absolute nonsense’ that more exams are needed to work with animals than young children
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